Archief - Start/taskbar problemen e.d.

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Z

Zelete

Legacy Member
Heb een klein probleempje met de PC. Soms doet mijn taskbar lastig en kan ik vaak vensters niet naar de voorgrond brengen als ik er op klik. De knop in de taskbar doet dan gewoon niets. Als ik even met de muis ergens in het rond klik lukt het weer wel.

De kleine knopjes rechts werken ook maar half. Mijn Xfire knopje heb ik veel last mee soms :)

Stappen ondernomen:

- defragmentatie
- avast! scan op normal
- crap cleaner registry scan
- crap cleaner clean
- bepaalde services en startups verwijderd

En dan nu het logje:

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 12:07:38, on 6/04/2009
Platform: Windows Vista SP1 (WinNT 6.00.1905)
MSIE: Unable to get Internet Explorer version!
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Messenger\msnmsgr.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Daemon\daemon.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\VoipBuster\VoipBuster.exe
C:\Program Files\Avast\ashDisp.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Contacts\wlcomm.exe
G:\Steam\Steam.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Xfire\xfire.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Program Files\Avast\ashSimpl.exe
D:\Other\HiJackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL =

MSN.com
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL =

Live Search
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page =

Live Search
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =

MSN.com
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =
R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing
F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=userinit.exe
O1 - Hosts: ::1 localhost
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {5C255C8A-E604-49b4-9D64-90988571CECB} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In SSV Helper - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} -

C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: Windows Live Sign-in Helper - {9030D464-4C02-4ABF-8ECC-5164760863C6} -

C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows

Live\WindowsLiveLogin.dll
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper - {DBC80044-A445-435b-BC74-9C25C1C588A9} -

C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\jp2ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Gears Helper - {E0FEFE40-FBF9-42AE-BA58-794CA7E3FB53} - C:\Program

Files (x86)\Google\Google Gears\Internet Explorer\0.5.4.2\gears.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [avast!] C:\PROGRA~1\Avast\ashDisp.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ccleaner] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Cleaner\CCleaner.exe" /AUTO
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MsnMsgr] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows

Live\Messenger\MsnMsgr.Exe" /background
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [DAEMON Tools Lite] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Daemon\daemon.exe" -

autorun
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [VoipBuster] "C:\Program Files (x86)\VoipBuster\VoipBuster.exe" -

nosplash -minimized
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe

/detectMem (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe

/detectMem (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O4 - Startup: CoreTemp.lnk = C:\Program Files (x86)\CoreTemp\Core Temp.exe
O4 - Startup: Xfire.lnk = C:\Program Files (x86)\Xfire\xfire.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xporteren naar Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~2

\MICROS~2\Office12\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {09C04DA7-5B76-4EBC-BBEE-B25EAC5965F5} - C:\Program

Files (x86)\Google\Google Gears\Internet Explorer\0.5.4.2\gears.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: &Gears Settings - {09C04DA7-5B76-4EBC-BBEE-

B25EAC5965F5} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Google Gears\Internet

Explorer\0.5.4.2\gears.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~2

\MICROS~2\Office12\REFIEBAR.DLL
O13 - Gopher Prefix:
O15 - ProtocolDefaults: '@ivt' protocol is in My Computer Zone, should be Intranet

Zone
O15 - ProtocolDefaults: 'file' protocol is in My Computer Zone, should be Internet

Zone
O15 - ProtocolDefaults: 'ftp' protocol is in My Computer Zone, should be Internet

Zone
O15 - ProtocolDefaults: 'http' protocol is in My Computer Zone, should be Internet

Zone
O15 - ProtocolDefaults: 'https' protocol is in My Computer Zone, should be Internet

Zone
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) -

http://fpdownload2.macromedia.com/get/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{22669014-D579-4BA4-961B-3DF07ED3F1DB}:

NameServer = 192.168.0.9
O17 - HKLM\System\CS1\Services\Tcpip\..\{22669014-D579-4BA4-961B-3DF07ED3F1DB}:

NameServer = 192.168.0.9
O17 - HKLM\System\CS2\Services\Tcpip\..\{22669014-D579-4BA4-961B-3DF07ED3F1DB}:

NameServer = 192.168.0.9
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\Alg.exe,-112 (ALG) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\System32\alg.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: avast! iAVS4 Control Service (aswUpdSv) - ALWIL Software - C:\Program

Files\Avast\aswUpdSv.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Antivirus - ALWIL Software - C:\Program

Files\Avast\ashServ.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Mail Scanner - ALWIL Software - C:\Program

Files\Avast\ashMaiSv.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Web Scanner - ALWIL Software - C:\Program

Files\Avast\ashWebSv.exe
O23 - Service: @dfsrres.dll,-101 (DFSR) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32

\DFSR.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\fxsresm.dll,-118 (Fax) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\system32\fxssvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: FLEXnet Licensing Service - Acresso Software Inc. - C:\Program Files

(x86)\Common Files\Macrovision Shared\FLEXnet Publisher\FNPLicensingService.exe
O23 - Service: FLEXnet Licensing Service 64 - Acresso Software Inc. - C:\Program

Files\Common Files\Macrovision Shared\FLEXnet Publisher\FNPLicensingService64.exe
O23 - Service: Google Update Service (gupdate1c95df6b5a5c79d)

(gupdate1c95df6b5a5c79d) - Google Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)

\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe
O23 - Service: @keyiso.dll,-100 (KeyIso) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32

\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Lavasoft Ad-Aware Service - Lavasoft - C:\Program Files (x86)

\AdAware\AAWService.exe
O23 - Service: @C:\Windows\system32\COMRES.DLL,-2797 (MSDTC) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\System32\msdtc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\System32\netlogon.dll,-102 (Netlogon) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (nvsvc) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\system32\nvvsvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: PnkBstrA - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\PnkBstrA.exe
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\psbase.dll,-300 (ProtectedStorage) - Unknown

owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\Locator.exe,-2 (RpcLocator) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\system32\locator.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\samsrv.dll,-1 (SamSs) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\SLsvc.exe,-101 (slsvc) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\system32\SLsvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\snmptrap.exe,-3 (SNMPTRAP) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\System32\snmptrap.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\spoolsv.exe,-1 (Spooler) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\System32\spoolsv.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Steam Client Service - Valve Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)

\Common Files\Steam\SteamService.exe
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\ui0detect.exe,-101 (UI0Detect) - Unknown owner

- C:\Windows\system32\UI0Detect.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vds.exe,-100 (vds) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\System32\vds.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\vssvc.exe,-102 (VSS) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\system32\vssvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\wbengine.exe,-104 (wbengine) - Unknown owner -

C:\Windows\system32\wbengine.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%Systemroot%\system32\wbem\wmiapsrv.exe,-110 (wmiApSrv) - Unknown

owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbem\WmiApSrv.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Yet Another Telephony Engine (yate) - Null Team Impex SRL -

C:\Program Files (x86)\Yate\yate-service.exe

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End of file - 8082 bytes
J

Juisterr

Legacy Member
Ga naar Start - Uitvoeren en tik in: notepad.exe
Klik op OK.
Ga in Kladblok naar Opmaak, en haal het vinkje weg voor "Automatische terugloop".
Sluit Kladblok terug af.


maak een nieuw HJT logje aub.
Z

Zelete

Legacy Member
Ziezo:

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 23:16:33, on 6/04/2009
Platform: Windows Vista SP1 (WinNT 6.00.1905)
MSIE: Unable to get Internet Explorer version!
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Messenger\msnmsgr.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Daemon\daemon.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\VoipBuster\VoipBuster.exe
C:\Program Files\Avast\ashDisp.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Contacts\wlcomm.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Xfire\xfire.exe
G:\Steam\Steam.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Users\Zelete\AppData\Local\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe
D:\Other\HiJackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = MSN.com
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = Live Search
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = Live Search
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = MSN.com
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =
R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing
F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=userinit.exe
O1 - Hosts: ::1 localhost
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {5C255C8A-E604-49b4-9D64-90988571CECB} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In SSV Helper - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: Windows Live Sign-in Helper - {9030D464-4C02-4ABF-8ECC-5164760863C6} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WindowsLiveLogin.dll
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper - {DBC80044-A445-435b-BC74-9C25C1C588A9} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\jp2ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Gears Helper - {E0FEFE40-FBF9-42AE-BA58-794CA7E3FB53} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Google Gears\Internet Explorer\0.5.4.2\gears.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [avast!] C:\PROGRA~1\Avast\ashDisp.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ccleaner] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Cleaner\CCleaner.exe" /AUTO
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MsnMsgr] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Messenger\MsnMsgr.Exe" /background
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [DAEMON Tools Lite] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Daemon\daemon.exe" -autorun
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [VoipBuster] "C:\Program Files (x86)\VoipBuster\VoipBuster.exe" -nosplash -minimized
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /detectMem (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /detectMem (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O4 - Startup: CoreTemp.lnk = C:\Program Files (x86)\CoreTemp\Core Temp.exe
O4 - Startup: Xfire.lnk = C:\Program Files (x86)\Xfire\xfire.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xporteren naar Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~2\Office12\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {09C04DA7-5B76-4EBC-BBEE-B25EAC5965F5} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Google Gears\Internet Explorer\0.5.4.2\gears.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: &Gears Settings - {09C04DA7-5B76-4EBC-BBEE-B25EAC5965F5} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Google Gears\Internet Explorer\0.5.4.2\gears.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~2\Office12\REFIEBAR.DLL
O13 - Gopher Prefix:
O15 - ProtocolDefaults: '@ivt' protocol is in My Computer Zone, should be Intranet Zone
O15 - ProtocolDefaults: 'file' protocol is in My Computer Zone, should be Internet Zone
O15 - ProtocolDefaults: 'ftp' protocol is in My Computer Zone, should be Internet Zone
O15 - ProtocolDefaults: 'http' protocol is in My Computer Zone, should be Internet Zone
O15 - ProtocolDefaults: 'https' protocol is in My Computer Zone, should be Internet Zone
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - http://fpdownload2.macromedia.com/get/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{22669014-D579-4BA4-961B-3DF07ED3F1DB}: NameServer = 192.168.0.9
O17 - HKLM\System\CS1\Services\Tcpip\..\{22669014-D579-4BA4-961B-3DF07ED3F1DB}: NameServer = 192.168.0.9
O17 - HKLM\System\CS2\Services\Tcpip\..\{22669014-D579-4BA4-961B-3DF07ED3F1DB}: NameServer = 192.168.0.9
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\Alg.exe,-112 (ALG) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\alg.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: avast! iAVS4 Control Service (aswUpdSv) - ALWIL Software - C:\Program Files\Avast\aswUpdSv.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Antivirus - ALWIL Software - C:\Program Files\Avast\ashServ.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Mail Scanner - ALWIL Software - C:\Program Files\Avast\ashMaiSv.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Web Scanner - ALWIL Software - C:\Program Files\Avast\ashWebSv.exe
O23 - Service: @dfsrres.dll,-101 (DFSR) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\DFSR.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\fxsresm.dll,-118 (Fax) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\fxssvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: FLEXnet Licensing Service - Acresso Software Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Macrovision Shared\FLEXnet Publisher\FNPLicensingService.exe
O23 - Service: FLEXnet Licensing Service 64 - Acresso Software Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Macrovision Shared\FLEXnet Publisher\FNPLicensingService64.exe
O23 - Service: Google Update Service (gupdate1c95df6b5a5c79d) (gupdate1c95df6b5a5c79d) - Google Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe
O23 - Service: @keyiso.dll,-100 (KeyIso) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Lavasoft Ad-Aware Service - Lavasoft - C:\Program Files (x86)\AdAware\AAWService.exe
O23 - Service: @C:\Windows\system32\COMRES.DLL,-2797 (MSDTC) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\msdtc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\System32\netlogon.dll,-102 (Netlogon) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (nvsvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\nvvsvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: PnkBstrA - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\PnkBstrA.exe
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\psbase.dll,-300 (ProtectedStorage) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\Locator.exe,-2 (RpcLocator) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\locator.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\samsrv.dll,-1 (SamSs) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\SLsvc.exe,-101 (slsvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\SLsvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\snmptrap.exe,-3 (SNMPTRAP) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\snmptrap.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\spoolsv.exe,-1 (Spooler) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\spoolsv.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Steam Client Service - Valve Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Steam\SteamService.exe
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\ui0detect.exe,-101 (UI0Detect) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\UI0Detect.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vds.exe,-100 (vds) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\vds.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\vssvc.exe,-102 (VSS) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\vssvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\wbengine.exe,-104 (wbengine) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbengine.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%Systemroot%\system32\wbem\wmiapsrv.exe,-110 (wmiApSrv) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbem\WmiApSrv.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Yet Another Telephony Engine (yate) - Null Team Impex SRL - C:\Program Files (x86)\Yate\yate-service.exe

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End of file - 8107 bytes
J

Juisterr

Legacy Member
Klik met de rechtermuis op het programma Hijackthis en kies voor "Uitvoeren als Administrator"
Kies voor 'Do a system scan only'
Selecteer alleen de items die hieronder zijn genoemd:

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =
R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {5C255C8A-E604-49b4-9D64-90988571CECB} - (no file)

Sluit alle vensters behalve Hijackthis
Klik op 'Fix checked' om de items te verwijderen.

start opnieuw op.

vertel hoe het nu gaat aub
Z

Zelete

Legacy Member
Ik heb het niet meer voorgehad sinds de restart. Hopelijk blijft het zo :)

Bedankt voor de hulp!
Het archief is een bevroren moment uit een vorige versie van dit forum, met andere regels en andere bazen. Deze posts weerspiegelen op geen enkele manier onze huidige ideeën, waarden of wereldbeelden en zijn op sommige plaatsen gecensureerd wegens ontoelaatbaar. Veel zijn in een andere tijdsgeest gemaakt, al dan niet ironisch - zoals in het ironische subforum Off-Topic - en zouden op dit moment niet meer gepost (mogen) worden. Toch bieden we dit archief nog graag aan als informatiedatabank en naslagwerk. Lees er hier meer over of start een gesprek met anderen.
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