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AMD's net loss for the fourth quarter ended December 31 was $574 million, or $1.08 per share, compared with a profit of $96 million, or 21 cents a share, a year earlier.

The results included special items such as a $550 million charge related to its purchase of ATI.

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acquisitor zei:

niet mee akkoord.

Zonder AMD bepaalt INTC zelf hoeveel het verdient...

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Brainbug zei:

wooi amd aandelen staan laag? KOPEN DIE HANDEL

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acquisitor zei:

niet mee akkoord.

Zonder AMD bepaalt INTC zelf hoeveel het verdient...

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acquisitor zei:

Ik zie dat AMD fanboys gekwetst zijn hoeveel aandelen heb je jonge man ? morgen word je NOG es 10% armer an uitzicht is niet echt positief. AMD zal maar 8 dollar kosten binnen een jaar.
margins zijn down, intel's conroe is kicking ass, AMD heeft geen geld om te investeren, marketshare is aan het dalen.

chapter 11 zal idd nog niet voor morgen zijn maar bereid je maar voor ;p tenzij uw POS met een mirakelproduct naar voorkomt ;p sweet dreams manneke

will cover at 8 bucks.

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Xer0x zei:

lol gast, AMD verlieslatend en Chapter 11

AMD heeft in dit kwartaal ATi gekocht voor 550Miljoen dollar en die volledige kostenpost op dit kwartaal gezet! + ze moeten dan nog reorganisatie en integratie kosten in ATi steken.
+ ze investeren atm 6MILJARD dollar in hun fab in dresden en zullen tegen 2008~2009 8a9 MILJARD dollar investeren in een Fab in New York.
nu moet hij mij eens uitleggen welk bedrijf KAN winst draaien met zo'n kosten + lage marges door de prijzen oorlog.
bv zonder de aankoop van ATi ging AMD dit kwartaal 63miljoen USD winst gemaakt hebben, want de verkoop van microprocessors is met 29% !!! gestegen.
voor een bedrijf is het niet erg om eens een kwartaal verlies te draaien. zeker als investeringen aan de basis daarvan liggen.
jij hebt duidelijk bewezen hoeveel je van deze feiten afweet en wat voor econoom je bent :ironic:

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Much as I admire the guts and determination of those who work at Advanced Micro Devices (NYSE: AMD), I wouldn't touch the stock with your money.

Give peace a chance
What, too harsh? Blame the war. The price war, that is. According to statistics from the Semiconductor Industry Association, the average price of microprocessors declined 18% year over year, thanks to punitive discounting by both AMD and Intel (Nasdaq: INTC).

Think AMD will outlast its larger rival? Get real. AMD has a history of using cash rather than generating it. Plus, the firm has committed an extraordinary amount of capital -- $5.4 billion, to be precise -- to acquireATI Technologies (Nasdaq: ATYT). Check out how these two have warmed themselves to a bonfire of bucks over the years:

When Apple bites back
But that's the past, right? AMD's Opteron processor has positively pulverized Intel in the server market. And now that Dell (Nasdaq: DELL) has agreed to start dating AMD, its market share could grow even more.

If only that mattered. I'll refrain from reciting the numerous problems Dell faces. Instead, I'll pose this question: What is Dell's competitive advantage? Price, born from efficiency in its build-to-order supply chain. Now, where do you think those efficiencies are gained? If your answer is "on the backs of suppliers," you're at least half right.

Dell is struggling so badly with margins that AMD will have to offer deeply discounted chips to gain the market share it wants. And that's entirely independent of any price war with Intel. Once CEO Paul Otellini decides that he'd rather not let his longtime PC partner go so quietly into the night, the war of attrition will escalate.

Meanwhile, Intel sells to both Dell and Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL), which has officially transitioned its entire product line to the well-received Core Duo chips. And guess what? No price war! Intel gets to sell into a fast-growing market where margins are at least reasonable, and maybe even healthy. AMD's only similar crutch is Opteron in servers.

Is playing catch-up really that difficult?
But that may not last. Now, wait. Before you write that hate mail that bemoans Intel gluing two dies together to get to quad core quickly, or that praises the well-understood virtues of AMD's HyperTransport protocol, or that ridicules Intel's chips for producing more heat than your fireplace, please remember that I'm not saying that AMD lacks a technical advantage.

In fact, I believe AMD does have a meaningful edge now that could widen over time. But "could" is the key word here, Fool. How good is the open processor push that AMD unveiled last month to industrywide acclaim? Wonderful ... if others take the bait and produce co-processors that enhance AMD's offerings as meaningfully as pundits believe. Of course, they may not.

Meanwhile, Intel works with at least as many partners and has money to burn -- $9.4 billion after debt, to be precise. AMD, on the other hand, has $2.5 billion of net cash in the bank, all of which will disintegrate with the purchase of ATI. (Though, to be fair, AMD is getting generous terms for debt, which it will use to replenish its coffers.)

The Foolish bottom line
I'll be honest. I favor neither AMD nor Intel. I think they both make for lousy investments right now because of the inherent risk created by a revenue-destroying and cash flow-eating price war. There's simply no margin of safety in a market where margins are thinner than Nicole Richie and rarer than a moment of lucidity from former Simple Life pal Paris Hilton. Consider yourself warned.

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