Anarchist12911
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En hoe kan je de volgende teksten uit de Koran als 'vredelievend' interpreteren en niet vrouwhatend?
Jullie lijken nogal opportunistisch met jullie geloof om te springen. De ene keer zijn die versen helemaal niet zo bedoeld, en de andere keer als je het aan verkrachters etc. vraagt voelen ze zich schuldloos omdat ze gewoon het in naam van de Islam deden (op basis van zulken verzen.)
Zeker niet vergeten ook dit te lezen: https://www.beyondgaming.be/archive...ra-meiden-van-halal-vs-filip-de-winter.634290
Tabari IX:113 "Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an."
Tabari VIII:62 Ishaq:496 "Women are plentiful. You can get a replacement, easily changing one for another.'"
Bukhari:V3B48N826 "The Prophet said, 'Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?' The women said, 'Yes.' He said, 'This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind.'"
'O womenfolk, ... ...You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.' Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense? The Prophet replied, 'Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.'"
"It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."
Tabari IX:126 "The Messenger of Allah married fifteen women. He combined eleven at a time and left behind nine."
Qur'an 33:50 "O Prophet! We have made lawful to you all the wives to whom you have paid dowers; and those whom your hands possess out of the prisoners of war spoils whom Allah has assigned to you; and daughters of your paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of your uncles and aunts, who migrated with you; and any believing woman if the Prophet wishes her; this is a privilege for you only, and not for the rest of the Believers; We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom they possess; in order that there should be no difficulty for you and that you should be free from blame." ... Ja, ... Mohammed was natuurlijk de uitzondering omdat hij -de profeet- was. Voor mij in ieder geval al aanwijzing genoeg dat hij de Islam had gesticht omdat hij lekker wou sexen.
Tabari IX:131 "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was then brought in while the Messenger was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. Then the men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old."
Bukhari:V1B4N1229-33 "Aisha [who was 9] said, 'I used to wash semen off the Prophet's [who was 53] clothes. When he went for prayers I used to notice one or more spots on them.'"
Bukhari:V4B52N143 V5B59N523 "When we reached Khaybar, Muhammad said that Allah had enabled him to conquer them. It was then that the beauty of Safiyah was described to him. Her husband had been killed, so Allah's Apostle selected her for himself. He took her along with him till we reached a place called Sad where her menses were over and he took her for his wife, consummating his marriage to her, and forcing her to wear the veil.'"
Hoofddoek was origineel een symbool van de onderdrukking van de vrouw, à la "Ja ik ga u eerst eens goed 'consumeren' en daarna draag je dit belachelijk kleed zodat niemand je mag zien, behalve ik."
Bukhari:V9B86N98 "The Prophet said, 'A virgin should not be married till she is asked for her consent.' 'O Apostle! How will the virgin express her consent?' He said, 'By remaining silent.'"
Qur'an 24:34 "Force not your women to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. [And here's the freedom-to-pimp card:] But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving."
Ishaq:496 "Ask your wife; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
Ishaq:584 "Tell the men with you who have wives: never trust a woman."
B1N142 "'O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.' A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah's Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: 'You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.'"
Qur'an 55:62 "And beside this, there are two other Gardens, rich green in color from plentiful watering. In them will be two springs, gushing forth, and fruits. And beautiful companions, virgins cloistered in pavilions, undefiled by men and jinn, reclining on green cushions and rich mattresses. Which of the favors of you Lord will you both deny"
Blijkbaar komen alleen maagden in de hemel als ze vrouw zijn. Die wezens die hier rondlopen op deze aardkloot zijn enkel maar lustobjecten?
Bukhari:V4B55N544 "Allah's Apostle said, 'The first group who will enter Paradise will be glittering like the moon and those who will follow will glitter like the most brilliant star. They will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Their combs will be gold and their sweat will smell like musk. ..."
"...Their companions will be houris [virgins]. All of them will look alike and will be sixty cubits (180 feet) tall.'
... Moslim houden blijkbaar van grote borsten en billen, volgens de Koran.
Tabari I:280 "Allah said, 'It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.' Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid."
En ik heb hier nog zo honderden verwijzingen naar fragmenten uit de Koran. Of wacht ... hier nog een quote:
Abdel Hamid Kishk, a blind sheikh who constantly attacked Egypt and its official religious establishment for not adhering to true Islam: "Muslims who entered paradise would enjoy ETERNAL ERECTIONS"
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Jullie lijken nogal opportunistisch met jullie geloof om te springen. De ene keer zijn die versen helemaal niet zo bedoeld, en de andere keer als je het aan verkrachters etc. vraagt voelen ze zich schuldloos omdat ze gewoon het in naam van de Islam deden (op basis van zulken verzen.)
Zeker niet vergeten ook dit te lezen: https://www.beyondgaming.be/archive...ra-meiden-van-halal-vs-filip-de-winter.634290
... Selectief met hun bronnen, zoals altijd.

