Archief - Bad Beats en dergelijke
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BlaDe
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clubje zei:klopt, maar ik weet de redenering erachter nog nietkun je even toelichten?
cash heb je met een 100BB stack ruim de tijd, en mensen zullen ook minder handen pushen die je dominate. dit in tegenstelling tot sng's of mtt's, waar mensen onder tijddruk (stack <-> blinds) meer handen zullen pushen, waardoor AK PFAI callen profitable (kan zijn) is. allemaal afhankelijk van situatie en stacksizes etc etc, gewoon general uitleg.
GrImReApEr
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van het pokerstrategy forum, met voorsprong het grappigste downswing rapport ooit gelezen:
By daphunk (Short Stack Strategy)
Lost $70 with QQ today.....
Apart from that though, I get Nothing but lose lose lose. In brief here is how I can describe what happens to me with various starting Hands and my Own quick poker "lessons" because of it! Enjoy
Pocket Aces;
The Only "Conventional" hand that can win. Otherwise villain = set of 8's.
Aces are pretty much the only hand you can win with, but be warned, 30% of the time the Villain will hit their set! Don't be upset when this happens.
Pocket Kings;
Ace Magnet. Villain = A8o
A good hand. Almost as good as Aces and can win 47% of the time! When the Ace comes on the flop though be prepared to Fold. Villain will have between A2o and A8o.
Pocket Queens;
Ace Magnet. Villain = AQo
Almost never wins. Possibly because of that argument you had with your girlfriend, news has spread and women Don't like you! So if you get the ladies in poker you should probably just lay them down before that shortstack reraises you with KK. If you are looking at a flop though, be aware that an Ace or a King will come up 85% of the time and The villain will have one of the others in his hand!
Pocket Jacks;
King Magnet. Villain = KJs
This is occasionally a good hand. As it is technically not as good as QQ+ You are actually more likely to win as you will hit a set more often. In poker the weaker hand will normally improve 70% of the time to beat the stronger hand so you better hope the villain has QQ here because only then will you win. Normally however the Villain will have something like KJs which is of course worse than your hand and will hit a flush.
Ace King!
Raise UTG, Shortstack Pushes in MP1, Hero has to fold.
This Is a great hand. But you know that Shortstack just behind you? Yes, If you pick up AK he will pick up something in the region of QQ+ to reraise you with so you'll have to fold against him without even seeing the flop!
Ace Queen,
Raise. Hit Pair of Aces on flop, Push. Villain Calls shows AK.
AQ is a lovely hand. Looks elegant and impressive but this is as far as it goes. Unfortunately its still in the top 10% of hands in poker so it is almost guaranteed to lose versus the majority of weaker hands. This is the one strong hand that can also get beaten by better hands though and frequently You will run into AK with this one.
The K3s Steal that got called!
Some of The best hands in the game Are hands that shouldn't be!
Now, It doesn't nescaserily have to be a K3s but mainly any stealing hand that you wouldn't consider good. Now these will almost certainly get you something useful on the flop if they get called!
As we have learned It is in fact the worst hand that will win in a confrontation and K3s for example is indeed dominated by Many other hands. This is why you cannot lose. The Flop will normally be K high, Villain will call your cbet and you will then hit Trips or two pair on turn. Sometimes however you'll just hit a flush on the flop though!
That about wraps up my tips for today but just remember;
Take my Advice and laugh as Your guaranteed K3s Backdoor Flush Owns that Villains "properly" played AQ! Heed my experience and you'll be rolling in profit in no time! Just remember, the worst hand normally wins
(Unless its up against AA or KK, in which case it only wins 40% of the time)
By daphunk (Short Stack Strategy)
Lost $70 with QQ today.....
Apart from that though, I get Nothing but lose lose lose. In brief here is how I can describe what happens to me with various starting Hands and my Own quick poker "lessons" because of it! Enjoy
Pocket Aces;
The Only "Conventional" hand that can win. Otherwise villain = set of 8's.
Aces are pretty much the only hand you can win with, but be warned, 30% of the time the Villain will hit their set! Don't be upset when this happens.
Pocket Kings;
Ace Magnet. Villain = A8o
A good hand. Almost as good as Aces and can win 47% of the time! When the Ace comes on the flop though be prepared to Fold. Villain will have between A2o and A8o.
Pocket Queens;
Ace Magnet. Villain = AQo
Almost never wins. Possibly because of that argument you had with your girlfriend, news has spread and women Don't like you! So if you get the ladies in poker you should probably just lay them down before that shortstack reraises you with KK. If you are looking at a flop though, be aware that an Ace or a King will come up 85% of the time and The villain will have one of the others in his hand!
Pocket Jacks;
King Magnet. Villain = KJs
This is occasionally a good hand. As it is technically not as good as QQ+ You are actually more likely to win as you will hit a set more often. In poker the weaker hand will normally improve 70% of the time to beat the stronger hand so you better hope the villain has QQ here because only then will you win. Normally however the Villain will have something like KJs which is of course worse than your hand and will hit a flush.
Ace King!
Raise UTG, Shortstack Pushes in MP1, Hero has to fold.
This Is a great hand. But you know that Shortstack just behind you? Yes, If you pick up AK he will pick up something in the region of QQ+ to reraise you with so you'll have to fold against him without even seeing the flop!
Ace Queen,
Raise. Hit Pair of Aces on flop, Push. Villain Calls shows AK.
AQ is a lovely hand. Looks elegant and impressive but this is as far as it goes. Unfortunately its still in the top 10% of hands in poker so it is almost guaranteed to lose versus the majority of weaker hands. This is the one strong hand that can also get beaten by better hands though and frequently You will run into AK with this one.
The K3s Steal that got called!
Some of The best hands in the game Are hands that shouldn't be!
Now, It doesn't nescaserily have to be a K3s but mainly any stealing hand that you wouldn't consider good. Now these will almost certainly get you something useful on the flop if they get called!
As we have learned It is in fact the worst hand that will win in a confrontation and K3s for example is indeed dominated by Many other hands. This is why you cannot lose. The Flop will normally be K high, Villain will call your cbet and you will then hit Trips or two pair on turn. Sometimes however you'll just hit a flush on the flop though!
That about wraps up my tips for today but just remember;
Take my Advice and laugh as Your guaranteed K3s Backdoor Flush Owns that Villains "properly" played AQ! Heed my experience and you'll be rolling in profit in no time! Just remember, the worst hand normally wins
(Unless its up against AA or KK, in which case it only wins 40% of the time)lagoya
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Redelijk zware BadBeat had op unibet in room 2/4 blinds ben binne gekomen met 380 ofzoix gestegen naar 470 en dan rustig aan beginne doen.
Krijg J10 als BB button raised naar 8 small blind en ik call
Flop QK3 SB bet 12 euro ik call button fold
turn A SB bet 60 euro ik raise 200 hij gaat all in ik call
river 3 Showdown ik straight A high hij full house three's full of kings:| hate the river efkes potje van 900 euro
Krijg J10 als BB button raised naar 8 small blind en ik call
Flop QK3 SB bet 12 euro ik call button fold
turn A SB bet 60 euro ik raise 200 hij gaat all in ik call
river 3 Showdown ik straight A high hij full house three's full of kings:| hate the river efkes potje van 900 euro
lagoya
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twas even met al men geld doe ik dus niet meer maar moet wel nog altijd 750 krijgen van unibet met die WWH bonus heb royal en straight flush gekregen in zelfde toernooi maar ze lopen achter omdat er teveel binnen komen... als die 750 sta ik op unibet met iets van een 50euro +...
ClayDavis
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lagoya zei:
omdat ik teveel tijd op 2+2 forum doorbreng (Why I don't tell people I play online poker = priceless thread)
[ ] BR managment
Hebt gij geld teveel ofzo :/ fuck maat. Achja mensen zoals gij zijn de reden dat online poker voor anderen nog winstgevend is zeker
lagoya
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hitman47 zei:omdat ik teveel tijd op 2+2 forum doorbreng (Why I don't tell people I play online poker = priceless thread)
[ ] BR managment
Hebt gij geld teveel ofzo :/ fuck maat. Achja mensen zoals gij zijn de reden dat online poker voor anderen nog winstgevend is zeker
2x BB callen terwijl ge big blind zijt en 3x big blind call op nuts straight draw is nie echt slecht gespeeld... en ik ken mss nie al die pokertermen da gunder gebruiken ma da moe nie zeggn dak nie kan spele en all in gaan op nuts straight slecht gespeeld?
Het archief is een bevroren moment uit een vorige versie van dit forum, met andere regels en andere bazen. Deze posts weerspiegelen op geen enkele manier onze huidige ideeën, waarden of wereldbeelden en zijn op sommige plaatsen gecensureerd wegens ontoelaatbaar. Veel zijn in een andere tijdsgeest gemaakt, al dan niet ironisch - zoals in het ironische subforum Off-Topic - en zouden op dit moment niet meer gepost (mogen) worden. Toch bieden we dit archief nog graag aan als informatiedatabank en naslagwerk. Lees er hier meer over of start een gesprek met anderen.